jon. you have the iranian vice president who's arriving with a high profile delegation to baghdad to meet with iraqi prime minister nor i al-maliki, a fellow shia muslim, they're trying to build relations, and listen to senators joe lieberman and lindsey graham, who just returned from afghanistan: >> the biggest nightmare for the ayatollahs in iran is to have a democrat -- democracy in iraq and afghanistan on their borders so yes, they're helping the taliban, they're trying to react to debate that shia are trying to bring down democracy, they're trying to undermine their efforts. they're responsible for material coming into both countries that are killing not only american soldiers but the rec -- iraqi and afghan people. >> they've got the blood of a lot of people on their hands, including the hundreds of americans who have been killed in iraq as a result of iranian training and equipping of extremist militias. >> reporter: but i just asked general david rodriquez, who is the number two in